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	| Sentimental Newbie
 
 
			Joined: 31 Jan 2004Posts: 6
 
 
   |   Over-ride Shipping settings for single product 
			I'm sure I saw this a couple of months ago when I wasn't looking for it, but I can't find it now!  Is there a way to override shipping and tax settings for a single product?  I want to be able to have a customer order something and pay just a deposit, for which I do not have to charge tax, nor want to charge shipping.  Any ideas apprciated. Thanks!
 
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	| Tue Mar 23, 04 9:40 am |     |  
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	| milehightrader Guest
 
 
			
 
 
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	| Tue Mar 23, 04 3:36 pm |  |  
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	| dmthom Newbie
 
 
			Joined: 24 Feb 2004Posts: 7
 
 
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			Any suggestions for one who wants to use this concept? Instead of shipping by weight, we ship by total $$ amount.
 Thank you!
 
 
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	| Tue May 25, 04 8:35 am |     |  
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	| Sentimental Newbie
 
 
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	| Tue May 25, 04 8:51 am |     |  
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	| dmthom Newbie
 
 
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   |   Override custom shipping for one item 
			sorry, I meant to say that I need Dr Vreeman's concept, except instead of by weight, by total amount.
 
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	| Tue May 25, 04 9:09 am |     |  
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	| milehightrader Guest
 
 
			
 
 
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			Take a look at shipping.txt in the protected/docs directory. It has what you are looking for.
 
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	| Wed May 26, 04 6:00 am |  |  
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	| dmthom Newbie
 
 
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			Yex, I have looked there, and there is now explanation of how to combine the good dr.'s concept with the 'by amount' shipping module.  If someone could break that down, I'd be most appreciative.
 
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	| Wed May 26, 04 9:19 am |     |  
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	| dmthom Newbie
 
 
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			"no" instead of "now", sorry!
 
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	| Wed May 26, 04 9:24 am |     |  
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	| milehightrader Guest
 
 
			
 
 
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			I think we need to clarify what you want. Originally you said
 Quote:Instead of shipping by weight, we ship by total $$ amount.
 
So, now you are saying you have 2 needs. You want "ship by total order amount", but you want to exempt certain items from shipping charges. Is this correct?
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	| Thu May 27, 04 5:58 am |  |  
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	| dmthom Newbie
 
 
			Joined: 24 Feb 2004Posts: 7
 
 
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			that is exactly correct, sorry for the confusion.
 David
 
 
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	| Thu May 27, 04 7:42 pm |     |  
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	| milehightrader Guest
 
 
			
 
 
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			Advanced shipping logic (and other advanced topics) is generally handled in the Pro Forum. Here is a re-post of some information on custom shipping logic Mister Ed posted at one time that may help you write your shipping logic.
 Quote:here's the logic fer this one.  It's fairly simple actually.  So noneed
 to charge you for this one or quote out a price.  I'll have more and
 more examples at agoracart.com as time passes:
 
 needed:
 Order Total Shipping
 $1 - $50.00 $8.95
 $50.00 - $399.00 15.04%
 
 @sc_shipping_logic = ( "|1-50.00|||8.95",
 "|50.01-399.99|||15.04%");
 
 $shipping_price = &calculate_shipping($temp_adj_total,
 $total_quantity, $total_measured_quantity);
 
 
 You need to define the cents just in case you have an order that is
 exactly 50.00 so your cart doesn't get confuzzeled on this
 particular
 situation.
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 Here's some handy tips
 
 For custom shipping logic, you can use any method you desire, the sky
 is the limit, as long as you are happy writing perl code ;) However,
 there are some shortcuts that are built-in for your use.
 
 The "sample" custom logic looks like this:
 --------------------------------- -----------------------------
 # In this example Shipping Cost is based on the total order.
 # $1-$29.99 is 10%, $30-$59.99 is 7.5%, etc. (TURN OFF UPS!)
 # Code does not force exit, so handling charge will be added!
 @sc_shipping_logic = ( "|1-29.99|||10.0%",
 "|30-59.99|||7.5%",
 "|60-89.99|||5.0%",
 "|90-119.99|||2.5%",
 "|120-|||0.00");
 #
 $shipping_price = &calculate_shipping($temp_total,
 $total_quantity, $total_measured_quantity);
 --------------------------------------------------------------
 
 One thing that is not there is the variable that describes the
 shipping
 option. Say we define the form field that sets the shipping option:
 
 @sc_order_form_shipping_related_fields = ("Ecom_ShipTo_Method");
 
 Then, say your methods are "SLOW", "FAST", "OVERNIGHT", then you
 could
 use custom logic to set the price:
 
 @sc_shipping_logic = ("SLOW|1-|||15%",
 "FAST|1-|||18%",
 "OVERNIGHT|1-|||35%");
 $shipping_price = &calculate_shipping($temp_total,
 $total_quantity, $total_measured_quantity);
 
 Another thing you could do is set the sc_shipping_logic array to
 respond to a different shipping field that you create, and to fixed
 fees you set for the zone. Then add the value of the varible
 $shipping_total (the sum of the "database" values multiplied by
 quantities) to whatever you calc with your field and your logic
 array:
 
 @sc_order_form_shipping_related_fields = ("Ecom_My_Zone_Field_Here");
 
 @sc_shipping_logic = ("USA|1-|||0.00",
 "CANADA|1-|||3.00",
 "EUROPE|1-|||8.00");
 $shipping_price = $shipping_total + &calculate_shipping($temp_total,
 $total_quantity, $total_measured_quantity);
 $shipping_logic_done = "yes"; #forced exit
 
 
 FYI, the logic array has five parts:
 shipping related field value|subtotal price|quantity|measured value
 (not
 used generally)|amount to charge
 
 The subtotal and quantity fields can be ranges, like 1-10, and 10 to
 infinity would simply be 10- without an upper bounds. One or the
 other
 of these is left blank.
 The amount to charge can be a percentage or a numeric amount.
 
 
 I'll post this on the agoracart.com site later :)
 
 Hope that helps
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	| jneidigh Newbie
 
 
			Joined: 10 Mar 2004Posts: 5
 
 
   |   wow i gotta learn how to compose questions! 
			milehightrader i am so impressed with this string, very helpful for my previous post from last night ("shipping by quantity twist") which generated no views or replies. guess i better learn how to phrase my questions!! haha.
 treeguy
 
 
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	| Fri May 28, 04 6:48 am |     |  
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	| milehightrader Guest
 
 
			
 
 
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			As for activity in one string versus another, if there is already a working string on a topic, or if the topic has already been addressed many times, there may not be much response to new strings.
 
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	| Mon May 31, 04 8:09 am |  |  
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	| jneidigh Newbie
 
 
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			Okay, but I haven't found my question addressed anywhere.  I seached and searched the archives but all I find is stuff about "go to shipping logic and write some code" postings.  Perhaps, you could direct me to where some code is already posted that can be tweaked?  Again, what I need to do is be able to add a shipping premium charge ($6 per box for EVERY 5 items ordered) for ONLY certain items (i.e., which are over a certain size) AND be able to turn this AND all shipping charged off IF the customer chooses to pick up the order.  I've already figured out how to turn the shipping charges on and off thing but not the shipping premium thing.  But primarily orders are shipped UPS so that option still needs to be there.  Does anyone have any ideas, or has anyone ever done this before??
 
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	| Mon May 31, 04 10:19 am |     |  
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	| milehightrader Guest
 
 
			
 
 
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			Part of the problem is you keep changing the rules of the game. You started with wanting percentage of order, then you added zero shipping for some items, and now to wanting shipping based on quantity of certain items thrown into the equation. At this point you have some involved advanced level shipping logic, which is beyond the scope of the free forum. At minimum you will need the Pro Forum, and possibly to pay Mister Ed, or one of the other experts, to set up the shipping logic.
 
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